The W124 Mercedes 500E was the world's most perfect sedan | Revelations with Jason Cammisa | Ep. 05

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There are a lot of misconceptions about the Porsche-built W124 Mercedes 500E, and Jason explains why the 500E and E500 was NOT a Porsche sports sedan with a Mercedes badge. First off, there's not a single Porsche part on the car.

Porsche Engineering Services helped with reengineering the W124's engine compartment to fit in the 32-valve, 4-cam M119 V-8 - for both the 400E and the 500E.

But the 500E doesn't use the same V-8 as the 500SL. It needed shorter connecting rods so that it fit in the same physical space as the 4.2-liter 400E - this way only one structural variant needed to be produced.

The 400E was a response to the Lexus LS400. Why do you think it wasn't called a 420E?

Porsche also did the engineering to bolt up wheels, tires, brakes, and suspension components from the wider and heavier R129 500SL and W124 500SEL. That necessitated fender flares so wide that the 500E didn't fit down the regular W124 production line in Sindelfingen.

For both models, Porsche performed the physical modifications to Mercedes-built W124 chassis, and sent them back to Sindelfingen for paint. The 400E remained there, but because of its width, the 500E was sent back to Porsche, which assembled the 500E at a second Zuffenhausen factory.

With Bruno Sacco's revolutionary looks, aerodynamics, obsession with safety, and Mercedes build quality and engineering might, the W124 was certainly among the best (and most expensive) sedans in the world.

Still is. It's close to perfect. But it's not a Porsche Sports Sedan.

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Коментара

  1. Gxp Z06
    Gxp Z06
    Пре 3 сата

    If it had clutch pedal I would say it would be close to best sports sedan

  2. puntt komma
    puntt komma
    Пре 10 сати

    Love w124's I had a coupe ,best car ever! Now a w210 chassis, but atleast m119 engine.

  3. Moe Being
    Moe Being
    Пре 13 сати

    Mercedes was 1st, in modern design, and probably many other things. Thanks dude. Bmw like many car companies had a 39 year run with an engine, a naturally aspirated straight six.

  4. Grigor Petrov
    Grigor Petrov
    Пре 16 сати

    People learn . The video creator too. The same car W 124 but not the 500 e the e 500 is the best

  5. Andy Boyd
    Andy Boyd
    Пре дан

    “Ferrari”

  6. Matt Portnoy
    Matt Portnoy
    Пре дан

    Found one for $5000. The seller didn’t know what he had.

  7. Billy Beheler
    Billy Beheler
    Пре дан

    Honestly the Mercedes’ of this era still look beautiful today. Mercedes should really look to the past for their future vehicles.

  8. Soren
    Soren
    Пре дан

    Isn't W140 S-Class the same thing but better?

  9. mad
    mad
    Пре дан

    I saw one of these when I was a kid. I will never forget that day, such a rare beast.

  10. Roach Sanderson
    Roach Sanderson
    Пре дан

    I love Adam Sandlers

  11. Vlad AK
    Vlad AK
    Пре 2 дана

    LOVE YOUR CHANNEL, Amazing videos

  12. Duke Krallis
    Duke Krallis
    Пре 2 дана

    Duude! I accidentally stumbled on your feed, wonderful piece of info and enthused commentary; I've always been intrigued about the E500 so imagine my surprise when I learned it thrives on a Porsche motor and other little facts it beats the BMW M5 in performance. You in the boot making some interesting comments was hilarious! Kudos brotha!

  13. gzimmer1
    gzimmer1
    Пре 3 дана

    There are a lot of great car channels on RSlost. These Jason Cammisa videos, however, are a cut above. Well done!

  14. Jake Bounkousonh
    Jake Bounkousonh
    Пре 3 дана

    Nicely done video. Learned something new.

  15. Mohammed Ali
    Mohammed Ali
    Пре 4 дана

    then came the e34M5. mercedes still trying to outperform bmw m division since that day.

  16. Dipie
    Dipie
    Пре 4 дана

    For the love of god, add metric measurements, just add them to the side of the imperial

  17. C0LLiEN
    C0LLiEN
    Пре 5 дана

    Awesome video and a very interesting story!

  18. Daniel Martins
    Daniel Martins
    Пре 5 дана

    Damn, that one sexy timeless looking car. It still looks good on the road today. 30 years later!

  19. dennis ndungi
    dennis ndungi
    Пре 6 дана

    by accident, hehehe good one

  20. Thorsten Teichert
    Thorsten Teichert
    Пре 6 дана

    W 140 Not 124 stupid Boy

  21. Román Jaspe
    Román Jaspe
    Пре 7 дана

    beautiful car. Thanks so much

  22. jason glisson
    jason glisson
    Пре 7 дана

    I love the way this guy talks about cars

  23. Thizz izwhatitiz
    Thizz izwhatitiz
    Пре 8 дана

    If only it had a manual transmission

  24. Vesa-Matti Loiri
    Vesa-Matti Loiri
    Пре 9 дана

    This is one of the best videos I've seen. The subject is a legendary version of a legendary car, and the production quality (writing, filming, scene...) is absolutely great. Good job.

  25. Ramon Sanders
    Ramon Sanders
    Пре 9 дана

    My dreamcar!!! And that for a Volvo man!!!! That’s the most perfect sedan ever build!!! I love them and I drove one and than you can only think one thing: damn what a car what a damn good car that e500!!!! It’s a shame that a normal person can’t buy these due the price !!! Greetz from the Netherlands , ramon

  26. Acura TL GTLM
    Acura TL GTLM
    Пре 9 дана

    At 4:50, that old Porsche ad made me realize, I did in fact dream about owning either a Stagea 260RS or a Legnum VR-4...

  27. James kyriacou
    James kyriacou
    Пре 9 дана

    Awesome car but i prefer the 1999 BMW 740i

  28. Corey Golphenee
    Corey Golphenee
    Пре 11 дана

    Very few luxury cars feel built to be driven like a w124 benz

  29. Corey Golphenee
    Corey Golphenee
    Пре 11 дана

    Bruno sacco makes you feel like you are driving a suit, you get in feel more important than your are and that is brilliant design

  30. Corey Golphenee
    Corey Golphenee
    Пре 11 дана

    The w124 is the tesla of the 80s, it defined what an automobile would become for decades to come

  31. kevin fetner
    kevin fetner
    Пре 11 дана

    Owning two W124's.....Mercedes stop supporting OE parts a few yrs ago. Actually, they provided parts a lot longer than they had to. So now, what's still in the pipeline is it. Aftermarket parts, if you care anything about your car and safety, are usually dismal. Whether or not that situation will improve is anyone's guess. I can easily envision a time when I would have to abandon the 124 and get something else due to the parts issue. And don't confuse OEM with OE. Original manufacturers don't have to make the parts as originally sanctioned/certified by MB....it's an honor system and entirely up to the manufacturer. I'm finding more often than not the honor system isn't working. A very sad commentary about a great series of cars.

  32. Paul Petre
    Paul Petre
    Пре 12 дана

    Jason, you are perfect!

  33. Kevin Haggerty
    Kevin Haggerty
    Пре 12 дана

    Still such an amazing vehicle even today

  34. Assassin Force
    Assassin Force
    Пре 13 дана

    E39 wants to know your location

  35. Hooligan101
    Hooligan101
    Пре 14 дана

    My grandfather owned one of these back in the day and both my dad and uncle rave about this car. He bought his used and from what my dad has told me it had a Borla exhaust and he described it as Nascar like and some sort of ECU tune.

  36. MrReal112
    MrReal112
    Пре 15 дана

    Boeing, Mercedes you name them…….Those were the days “when engineers outranked accountants”. And we’ve hardly ever had products as good as those since.

  37. Carlo Jerome
    Carlo Jerome
    Пре 15 дана

    Not was. Is

  38. Giulio Posenato
    Giulio Posenato
    Пре 15 дана

    I love these “reviews”

  39. Vedant Hase
    Vedant Hase
    Пре 15 дана

    Quick question what does Hagerty mean ? , Is it an Irish surname or something else 🙄🤔

  40. rs5001988
    rs5001988
    Пре 16 дана

    Possibly the best auto channel on RSlost

  41. Mein Kanal
    Mein Kanal
    Пре 16 дана

    I got a very cheap w202, and I recognize a lot of design features, very cool

  42. Quentin Hoff
    Quentin Hoff
    Пре 17 дана

    That thing ROARS!

  43. Siavash
    Siavash
    Пре 17 дана

    Nobody mentions AMG hammer

  44. Jake McHargue
    Jake McHargue
    Пре 17 дана

    the umbrella is inside of her

  45. sam jum
    sam jum
    Пре 17 дана

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  46. OradourSurGlane
    OradourSurGlane
    Пре 17 дана

    I've nevver stopped driving these cars for more than 30 years. I own a 260E with 350,000 km, a 320TE with 300,000 km and a 500SE (W126) with 430,000 km and no other car neither electric nor with combustion engine. I'm driving them daily, they have never let me down, are getting better every year and will never go away until I go. period.

  47. Hypnotists hooligan
    Hypnotists hooligan
    Пре 19 дана

    Most perfect sedan of world,are you killing me,ok is a good car but not best.

  48. BSABD315
    BSABD315
    Пре 20 дана

    best looking wheels of all time

  49. John Kokocinski
    John Kokocinski
    Пре 20 дана

    Think of long the LX platform has lasted into Chrysler/Dodge vehicles. Mercedes builds their in platforms to last!

  50. LooxGood
    LooxGood
    Пре 20 дана

    There once was a time, when Mercedes was building cars as they should have - in accordance with the rock solid quality. Late mid 80s to early 90s E-Class was the best Mercedes to this date...Built like tank, and refined as Rolls.

  51. Kar Isa
    Kar Isa
    Пре 20 дана

    love this guy's presentation! he's awesome!

  52. Corey Golphenee
    Corey Golphenee
    Пре 21 дан

    The w124 could have been sold in 2010 thats how ahead of its time it was

  53. Corey Golphenee
    Corey Golphenee
    Пре 21 дан

    As a w124 owner when you said put oil in it and put coolant in it and it will be fine you were right

  54. Corey Golphenee
    Corey Golphenee
    Пре 21 дан

    For me its a 6 speed 6 cyl 300ce

  55. Perry Solomon
    Perry Solomon
    Пре 22 дана

    Man to have one would be awesome...what a car! Thanks for this

  56. Anthony Farrell
    Anthony Farrell
    Пре 22 дана

    Thank you, liked, sub,d. Love your passion.

  57. GEGEGE NO KITARO
    GEGEGE NO KITARO
    Пре 22 дана

    E500 and W124 has different chassis..

  58. Chris Tatsios
    Chris Tatsios
    Пре 22 дана

    Good Times, brilliant cars and now?

  59. homer s
    homer s
    Пре 22 дана

    The lotus omega from 1990 did 283 kmh abd 0-100 in 5.4 sec with only 3.6 l twin turbo and 377 hp

  60. André Mecklenburg
    André Mecklenburg
    Пре 23 дана

    Thank you for this very nice Videoclip! I like my W126, 260 SE from 1987 it is the best Car in the World for me! But the W124 /500E is Perfect! A Car what never die! Is a Ingeniering Car and i know 1.000.000 Km with a 200D is normal and this feeling to fly over the Street is amazing! The best MB Cars was born in the 80´s! W201, W124, W126 ! And theCars are Youngtimers for 5000-40.000 Euros! The 500E was a special W124 and your Videoclip show this! But i like the 200D with 72 PS! It´s fantastic to drive a Overclass Car with with so many Power! The feeling is the same like a E420 ! I hope to see more Clips from you and wish you all the best... Andy!

  61. Manjunatha Prabhu
    Manjunatha Prabhu
    Пре 23 дана

    Gulf i30 civics do that kind of 0-100

  62. Cole Moore
    Cole Moore
    Пре 23 дана

    Realizing that the Taurus is claimed as the car who changed design but THIS Mercedes definitely what inspired the Taurus

  63. Fazakas Laszlo
    Fazakas Laszlo
    Пре 24 дана

    And when do you do a movie about the e34?

  64. Abdurahmon Komolov
    Abdurahmon Komolov
    Пре 24 дана

    i love sedan. it is my dream.this car a legend.and it never die

  65. Kev27RS
    Kev27RS
    Пре 25 дана

    Wonderful car! ❤

  66. Tanirogalarn
    Tanirogalarn
    Пре 25 дана

    Just to come back on something you said: the W201 and the W124 had relatively short car bodies as was customary with European cars but, with a wheelbase of respectively 105 and 110 inches, they were considered as a compact sedan and a midsize sedan.

  67. Jack Gentry
    Jack Gentry
    Пре 26 дана

    Where can I buy one?

  68. MEDIUM ACCOUNT
    MEDIUM ACCOUNT
    Пре 26 дана

    America is not a country, you may want to enroll in a geography class

  69. kaypee1972
    kaypee1972
    Пре 26 дана

    Funny, was just talking about this car last week with a friend

  70. christian lekström
    christian lekström
    Пре 26 дана

    Why didn´t you talk about the 6l car with 380hp?

  71. VOLT GAMING
    VOLT GAMING
    Пре 26 дана

    One of the most efficient sedans ever built , of course its German

  72. b
    b
    Пре 27 дана

    Is it better than LS460?

  73. Hi Ich Bin Barney
    Hi Ich Bin Barney
    Пре 27 дана

    A really nicely maintained low mileage 500e costs around 25000 here in Germany.

  74. ellesko
    ellesko
    Пре 27 дана

    Has this been filmed in the US or in Germany? Just asking out of curiosity because the 500E has a - albeit expired - registration from my German hometown of Remscheid (hence the RS) which is located approx. 25 miles northeast from Cologne (Köln) where the 190E had been registered (K for Köln). The letters TS on the 500E numberplate even suggest that it might possibly have been previously owned by Tim Schrick, a German race car driver and TV presenter and son of the founder of the Remscheid based motor engineering and developping company AVL Schrick.

  75. MX XM
    MX XM
    Пре 27 дана

    First time ever seeing your channel/videos and I subscribed in the 4th minute of watching this. Add one more to your numbers 👏👏

  76. Nakuci Arnold
    Nakuci Arnold
    Пре 28 дана

    Porsha

  77. James Walley
    James Walley
    Пре 28 дана

    E34 M5 because manual.

  78. SLO722
    SLO722
    Пре 29 дана

    The 500E was far from perfect. The ones in Japan regularly overheat because of insufficient cooling, and with such a big engine over the front axle, it’s handling could hardly be called sporty with the ASR kicking in frequently.

  79. thomas aquinas
    thomas aquinas
    Пре 29 дана

    'The world's most perfect sedan'? So, it was reasonably economic to fuel? Maintain? Reliable? I think the Mercedes 'lesser' models were much more practical. If it was merely performance, then just say that...

  80. Ian Oliver
    Ian Oliver
    Пре месец

    Now that is the way to make a piece for the tube of you. I wish more people would emulate you. I'm referring to ugly, badly-lit idiots in back-to-front hats who scream at me in the plural. And the car is just as good. Right. Vent over. Orff to drive my rubbish Toyota.

  81. John Cunningham
    John Cunningham
    Пре месец

    Yup Toyota built a better car at half the price huh? Great looking car but if you had stupid money who cares....

  82. Zaen Qureshi
    Zaen Qureshi
    Пре месец

    just dont understand why they had to make the headlights look like bricks

  83. Miriam Konig
    Miriam Konig
    Пре месец

    300c

  84. Robb Rogers
    Robb Rogers
    Пре месец

    Jason Cammisa u own this video along with the E500 my daily driver is the E320 wagon and i'd love to have the E500 engine in my wagon i have to say the MB wagon while disguised as a sports car corners and handles like a sport car and is so quiet i suspect there is something built into this car for the faster i go the quieter it gets in the car its like it tightens up its likely this will be my last car given my age so i baby this car with ceramic glaze and all that goes with that process i just noticed the miles on the car read 240066 miles not even broken in yet

  85. DaFuQWiZaT
    DaFuQWiZaT
    Пре месец

    mans wearing femboy stockings

  86. 2John1
    2John1
    Пре месец

    Yes the W 124 are nice but I disagree. You have the Toyota Legend, Nissan Cima, Nisaan Cefiro, Nissan President that are better than the W124. Believe me I have driven all of this car.

  87. Aaron Meneses
    Aaron Meneses
    Пре месец

    I’m loving the Revelations series with Jason Cammisa. A lot of stuff people don’t know and packages it into a really interesting, digestible episode.

  88. Robert Atwood
    Robert Atwood
    Пре месец

    Porsche has saved a lot of things Harley-Davidson they're also responsible for ZF Transmissions and now own two-thirds of the auto-market freaking amazing

  89. Marc Rosner
    Marc Rosner
    Пре месец

    The black car has a license plate from the city I grew up at in Germany. Funny

  90. Ádám Okolicsányi
    Ádám Okolicsányi
    Пре месец

    Mercedeses and Audises

  91. Lens View Media
    Lens View Media
    Пре месец

    I love cars but, the personality and presentation style of James won me over. I dont care how boring the topic seems, if its James I am watching.

  92. scott cionek
    scott cionek
    Пре месец

    Is that hyphen's car?

  93. nathan langford
    nathan langford
    Пре месец

    there was a special thanks to derek tam-scott at the end of credits - nice

  94. Attajah Kenneth
    Attajah Kenneth
    Пре месец

    Hey guys that's pretty good i just love this video, i got to share it with my friend who always quarrelled with me any time i said Mercedes Benz is the best car in the world....then come no it's BMW or i will leave you alone with your Mercedes. How can i get Mercedes Benz ML350 2008 used and in good condition. Thanks.

  95. CoasterTurbo
    CoasterTurbo
    Пре месец

    Parents had a W124 230E, the car was so well built but slow as hell

  96. Pharaoh
    Pharaoh
    Пре месец

    Had the 2.5l turbo diesel the thing was a tank and it got 680 miles to a full tank

  97. Leandro Guerreiro
    Leandro Guerreiro
    Пре месец

    I'm a Porsche and BMW guy, but I drove this car when I lived in Miami, and I can say this is the only mercedes I would own.

  98. Mikkel Nielsen
    Mikkel Nielsen
    Пре месец

    First time viewer, I really enjoyed this tale of the E500.. Just for info, in my country there are only 2 500E for sale, both from 1991, 192.000 miles, each costing 45.000$.. crazy huh!

  99. TheRaunz
    TheRaunz
    Пре месец

    Germans did and still do crazy good cars yet yank cars are just so garbage it´s baffling.

  100. Dave Davids
    Dave Davids
    Пре месец

    Had a E250 TDT for many years, was the best car I ever had. Tons of space (it would fit the complete arc of Noah plus a 900 sqft apartment), extreme comfort, luxury and reliability. Unfortunately the gear box and engine got ruined by some idiot mechanics in Croatia. Had to let go of it, but if that car would still be produced today.................I would buy it in an instance. Loved that car and also miss it. Nothing can top that car.